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This page provides information useful to the coin collector and investor, such as, coin investment analysis, history of coins, coin grading, buying and selling coins, etc... Coin Market Update
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Date |
1956 Proof Set |
Large Cent VG 1840-57 |
Indian Cent roll Good |
Liberty Nickel PR-60 |
Bust 10 Cent reduced VG |
L.S. Dime w/ legend BU-60 |
L.S. 25 Cent w/ motto VG |
Morgan 1891CC AU Dollar |
1934-S XF Dollar |
$10 Gold Indian AU-50 |
Recession #1 - July 1990 - March 1991 |
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1/5/1990 |
$34.00 |
$7.50 |
$25.00 |
$150.00 |
$9.00 |
$110.00 |
$8.25 |
$59.00 |
$110.00 |
$408.00 |
1/3/1992 |
$24.00 |
$9.00 |
$30.00 |
$105.00 |
$10.00 |
$90.00 |
$9.00 |
$59.00 |
$120.00 |
$330.00 |
-29.4% |
20.0% |
20.0% |
-30.0% |
11.1% |
-18.2% |
9.1% |
0.0% |
9.1% |
-19.1% |
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Recession #2 - March 2001 - November 2001 |
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1/5/2001 |
$28.00 |
$11.00 |
$38.00 |
$90.00 |
$17.25 |
$100.00 |
$14.00 |
$90.00 |
$100.00 |
$265.00 |
1/4/2002 |
$36.00 |
$14.00 |
$41.00 |
$90.00 |
$17.25 |
$100.00 |
$15.00 |
$90.00 |
$100.00 |
$280.00 |
% change |
28.6% |
27.3% |
7.9% |
0.0% |
0.0% |
0.0% |
7.1% |
0.0% |
0.0% |
5.7% |
Current Recession – December 2007 - ?: |
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12/7/2008 |
$48.00 |
$18.50 |
$55.00 |
$105.00 |
$30.00 |
$100.00 |
$22.00 |
$170.00 |
$145.00 |
$550.00 |
6/12/2009 |
$50.00 |
$19.00 |
$52.00 |
$125.00 |
$35.00 |
$100.00 |
$23.00 |
$170.00 |
$145.00 |
$610.00 |
% change |
4.2% |
2.7% |
-5.5% |
19.0% |
16.7% |
0.0% |
4.5% |
0.0% |
0.0% |
10.9% |
The first recession occurred between July 1990 and March 1991. The fourth row down labeled “% change” shows what the percent change was for each of the ten groups of coins. The 1956 proof set and the proof Liberty nickel took the biggest hit during the period January 1990 to January 1992, both down around 30% - not good. However, five of the coins showed an increase in price over this period and one, the 1891-CC AU Morgan dollar showed no change. In summary, four of the coins went down, one stayed the same, and five went up in value. Depending on how many of each coin type you owned, this recession could have been either positive or negative to the value of your collection.
The second recession ran from March 2001 to November 2001. It was a short one. During the period of January 2001 to January 2002 our small group of coins faired a little better this time. Five of the coins showed an increase and five showed no change in price. The 1956 proof set and the VG large cent both gained over 25 percent during this year. This is a very nice increase in price for these two items. This recession did not have a negative effect on this group of coins.
This current recession has been friendly to this small collection of typical coins. The average percent increase in price of this collection of coins has been 5.3% over the period from December 7, 2007 to June 12, 2009. For the sake of comparison, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) closed at 13625.58 on December 7, 2007 and 8799.26 on June 12, 2009. This is a 35 percent decrease over the same period.
To sum it all up, I would have to say that the last two recessions have not been too bad on this small coin collection and this current recession doesn’t appear to be having a negative effect on coin prices either.
COINS WORTH SAVING
By Brad Welles
www.coinsworthsaving.com
Every coin must be judged on its own merit, and the assistance of an experienced dealer is invaluable. Generally speaking, however, we prefer to deal in coins that exhibit the following characteristics:
Great eye appeal – Within every grade level, some coins are more attractive than others. Choose the most attractive overall, noting strike, luster, marks, toning, and other visual characteristics. There can be marked differences in value within the same coin grade.
Rarity – Overall rarity exists when few examples of a particular coin are available in all grades. Condition rarity means rarity only in higher grades. Either will generally enhance value. Beware, however, of conditionally rare modern coins, where millions of other examples in high grade may be waiting to be discovered or certified. Also be sure there is a collector base – some coins are rare, but no one wants them.
Popularity – Greater collector and investor demand can lead to greater values. Many series have time-proven appeal, including Morgan dollars, Indian and Lincoln cents, Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, and several series of gold US coins. Key dates (the hardest to obtain) within these series have generally shown the greatest increase in value.
Problem-Free – The coin should not be cleaned, altered, scratched, ex-jewelry, corroded, pitted, or otherwise damaged. This does not include normal circulation, which will affect grade but not detract from value within the grade. Some coins are so rare that any example is desirable, so there are numerous exceptions. However, most coins that have been “improved” by humans are worth much less than their unimproved counterparts. Original coin surfaces are rewarded by grading services and collectors alike.
Certified – Third party grading is not critical for dealers or knowledgeable collectors/investors. Nevertheless, it expands the universe of potential buyers when it’s time to sell. It also increases the likelihood that less knowledgeable heirs will receive a fair sale value if the owner dies. For higher value coins, it’s generally better to choose those that either have been or can be certified by PCGS or NGC. Certification by other companies may be acceptable if their standards match those of PCGS and NGC, but they do not command the same respect in the marketplace. Be cautious on coins certified in a grade with a big price jump over the next lower grade – make sure they are solid for the grade assigned.
Numismatic Value vs. Bullion Value – Coins whose value is based solely on their metallic content (gold, silver, platinum) have historically proven to be poor long-term investments. Coins with numismatic value, carefully chosen and held for extended periods of time, have generally rewarded their owners handsomely. Bullion coins can be a perfectly legitimate hedge against inflation and financial panic, but numismatic coins are historically the better long-term bet.
Disclaimer: we do not offer any form of financial advice, nor do we speculate on the future prices of precious metals or any particular coin. What we can offer is historical data on which coins have tended to appreciate in value, and the current trends in the industry.
eBay Auction Results for Certified Dollars
26 May 2009
www.investmentmetalsandcoins.com
In the last three decades the grading and encapsulation of collector coins has become big business. Many thousands (if not millions) of coins have been sent into such organizations as the Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS), Numismatic Guaranty Corporation, and American Numismatics Association Certification Service (ANACS) to be graded by a professional grader and placed in a protective plastic holder. This practice has helped standardize the grading standards of uncirculated coins. The cost for this service currently runs around $20 to $40 per coin depending on the value of the coin and when you want the coin returned from the grading service. Is this extra $20 or more dollars spent to grade and encapsulate your coins really worth it? Does the grading service matter? In this article I want to answer these two questions based on actual auction results from eBay.
There are several good grading services that can provide this service to the collector and dealer. In this article I will focus on three of the largest and best know services: PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. All three have been around for years and have good reputations in the collector community. The four figures below show typical examples of dollars graded and encapsulated by these three services. The last figure is of a raw or un-certified dollar. This is the typical picture that would appear on an eBay auction for un-certified dollars.

Figure 1 – PCGS Graded and Encapsulated 1921 MS63 Morgan Dollar

Figure 2 – NGC Graded and Encapsulated 1885 MS64 Morgan Dollar

Figure 3 – ANACS Graded and Encapsulated 1884-0 MS64 Morgan Dollar

Figure 4 – Raw or Un-Certified 1884-O MS63 Morgan Dollar
To determine what value the certification of dollars has, I started collecting eBay auction results from four Morgan and Peace dollar auction types: raw dollars grading BU to Choice BU, ANACS dollars grading MS60 to MS64, NGC dollars grading MS60 to MS64, and PCGS dollars grading MS60 to MS64. The averages shown below in Table 1 are from at least 12 successful auctions on eBay in each category. In other words, the averages in Table 1 required results from over 48 successful auctions on eBay. Many of the auctions were conducted by our coin business: C&D Coins and Currency http://stores.shop.ebay.com/C-D-Coins-and-Currency. In Table 1 the first column lists the type of auction recorded. The second column is the average percent the final price of the auction plus shipping and handling divided by Coin Dealer Newsletter (CDN) bid price. The raw or un-certified coins brought an average of 95 percent of CDN, whereas, the average price for a PCGS graded Morgan or Peace Dollar brought 29 percent over current CDN bid prices. That is a significant difference.
Table 1 – eBay Auction Results
Type of Dollar |
Average Percent CDN Bid |
Raw or un-certified |
95% |
ANACS Certification MS60 – MS64 |
101% |
NGC Certification MS60 – MS64 |
106% |
PCGS Certification MS60 – MS64 |
129% |
The auction results in Table 1 tells the story, that is, certification does matter when it comes to the price you will receive for your coins when they are bought or sold. Based on the small number of auctions reviewed the difference between the ANACS and NGC results are not significant. However, there is a significant difference between the raw dollars and the certified dollars. You can expect to get at least an additional 10 percent for your certified dollars as opposed selling them raw. Starting with silver dollars that bid for around $200, the cost of certification is worth the money spent. PCGS certification clearly brings more money in auctions than either the ANACS or NGC certification.
Based on my own experience in dealing with hundreds of certified coins, I have found the three services discussed above to be very similar in their grading standards. The price difference between PCGS and NGC or ANACS must be due the perception of the buyers, that is, buyers of PCGS graded coins feel they are worth more money in that holder.
Coin Market Update
(5/1/09)
by Brad Welles
www.coinsworthsaving.com
Overview:
Activity has slowed some in the early part of 2009, but most coin prices have held up well. In the first three months of 2009, approximately 35,000 US coins in the PCGS price guide moved up compared to about 8000 that lost value. A few coins priced over $15,000 have shown softness, as have coins with problems or poor eye appeal. Gold coins continue to show strength, except a few priced above $25,000. Less expensive “collector coins” have held their ground. This is reflected in the major coin indices:
CCDN Coin Market Index (broad wholesale measure): Up about 0.3% year to date
CoinAge Magazine MS65 Index (high end): Down about 4% through March
CoinAge Magazine VF Index (lower end): Up about 0.4% through March
PCGS 3000 Index (broad measure): Down 0.8% in the last 3 months
PCGS Generic Gold Coin Index (more common gold): Up 15% in the last 3 months
PCGS Mint State Rare Gold Coin Index (very high end): Down about 6% in the last 3 months
What’s Hot: Early US coins minted before 1834; key date Indian and Lincoln cents; any but the most expensive gold coins; key date Morgan dollars
What’s Not: Specialty areas such as early gold commemoratives and Morgan VAMs; common date silver coins; high grade modern coins; some very high end (over $25,000) coins; most currency
What are the Best Gold Coins to Buy?:
The answer to this depends largely on your objectives. Below are three general classes of gold coins and observations on each:
Bottom line: Generally, we would prefer to sell numismatic (or at least generic) coins to customers who plan to hold them for some years. However, if you judge that an economic crisis is at hand or simply want to own bullion, we can supply bullion coins at competitive prices. If your needs or your assessment of the financial climate change, bullion coins are easy to sell or trade for numismatic coins.
Feel free to contact us any time for more information on coin-related topics.
A collector friend of mine asked me the other day “Who would he sell his collection to once he was ready to retire from collecting”. I gave him a less than profound answer to his question, however, that got me thinking. Like most collectors and dealers it is easy to get a large sum of money tied up in your collection or inventory. So just who will we finally sell our coins to when we stop collecting?
There are a couple of key factors that have a big influence on the answer. The first factor is general population growth. In the United States the population has doubled since 1950. That means the number of collectors has probably doubled too. That is a significant increase. In 1950 we had available from the mint a proof set, a mint set, and a few commemorative halves. Compare that to the number of numismatic products available from the US mint today. I didn’t count them all, but there are at least 20 different items you can purchase. Someone is buying all these items or the mint wouldn’t be producing them. This tells me there are a lot of collectors, beginners and advanced, picking up these coins.
Another important factor is the international market place. We sell quite a few coins each month over eBay and about ten percent of our sales are to addresses outside the US. I’m not trying to say that the international sales of C&D Coins are significant enough that it is upsetting the international flow of collectable coins. However, this tells me that most internet based dealers are also selling many coins overseas. Coins that are shipped to other countries probably aren’t coming back on the US coin market anytime soon. I see this international market coin market place spreading to more countries of the world with time. This will add many new collectors to the fold over the next decades. From what I have observed over the years, coin collecting is a fundamental human condition, not just a western society “thing”. More people with access to the coin market, via the internet, translates to more new collectors hungry for coins.
A factor that is working against the collector is that the supply of older coins is diminishing with time. This is due to damage and permanent loss, damage being the more common of the two. I personally know of more than one collection destroyed in home fires. This resulted in hundreds of coins being reduced to bullion value or blobs of metal. Another source of damage is cleaning. Many nice coins in the hands of the well meaning novice get harshly cleaned. This reduces their value and lowers the number of quality coins available. Once a coin has been cleaned, it is really hard to “unclean” a coin.
With the two factors of an increase in the number of collectors world wide and a decrease in the number of collectable older coins available, maybe the question isn’t “Who would he sell his collection to once he was ready to retire from collecting” but rather, “Can he find all the coins he wants for his collection before he retires”?
There doesn’t seem to be a shortage of coin price guides available to the collector and dealer. About a dozen come to mind immediately. To try to make sense of some of the information available to value coins I did a comparison for seven coins that are commonly bought and sold by collectors. What I wanted to discover was how do the price guides compare to actual prices of coins being sold. With only seven coins this isn’t an all inclusive statistical comparison of actual prices and the price guides, however, from this limited sample of coins you can get an idea of how well the price guides reflect the current price of coins.
The seven coins chosen are common coins most collectors would have in their collection. I purposefully didn’t include extremely rare, bullion related, or top end uncirculated coins. The price for these coins has a lot of variability due to market fluctuations and probably wouldn’t be reflective of what I am trying to uncover here.
Table 1 lists the coins used in this study. The column labeled “eBay Store” are actual selling prices realized during 2007 from our eBay store http://stores.ebay.com/C-D-Coins-and-Currency. The prices listed in the “Num. News Ad” come directly from display ads in Numismatic News or Coin World magazines. The last column labeled “Average” is just the numeric average of the eBay and magazine prices. All the prices include shipping and insurance. The average price should be very reflective of the current retail coin market for these seven coins.
Table 1 - Retail Prices
Coin |
eBay Store |
Num. News Ad |
Average |
$100.00 |
169.50 |
$134.75 |
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1812 VG+ Large Cent |
$82.00 |
$104.00 |
$93.00 |
1868 G Indian Head Cent |
$32.00 |
$43.00 |
$37.50 |
1921-D G Walking Lib. Half |
$257.00 |
$349.00 |
$303.00 |
1925 BU63 Stone Mountain Commemorative Half |
$66.00 |
$83.50 |
$74.75 |
1872 VG Seated Dollar |
$194.00 |
$244.00 |
$219.00 |
1924-S AU Peace Dollar |
$59.00 |
$68.50 |
$63.75 |
Sum of column |
$790.00 |
$1061.50 |
$925.75 |
Three commonly available price guides were chosen for the study. The first is the old reliable “Red Book”. Actually it is called “A Guide Book of United States Coins”. It has been published since 1947 and virtually all collectors are familiar with this guide. The second guide comes monthly in Numismatic News as an insert. Over the years, I have found it to be reasonably accurate on the retail prices of US coins. The last, but not least, is the Coin Dealer Newsletter (commonly called the “Grey Sheet”). The “Ask” prices are the suggested dealer’s retail prices. I used the most recent editions of each of the price guides. The last column is the average of the three price guides.
Table 2 - Price Guide Prices
Coin |
2008 Red Book |
Num. News Price Guide |
CDN Ask |
Average |
1828 AU Half Cent 13 stars |
$160.00 |
$135.00 |
$120.00 |
$138.33 |
1812 VG+ Large Cent |
$85.00 |
$83.00 |
$72.00 |
$80.00 |
1868 G Indian Head Cent |
$45.00 |
$37.50 |
$30.00 |
$37.50 |
1921-D G Walking Lib. Half |
$300.00 |
$285.00 |
$280.00 |
$288.33 |
1925 BU-63 Stone Mountain Commemorative Half |
$100.00 |
$85.00 |
$67.00 |
$84.00 |
1872 VG Seated Dollar |
$220.00 |
$190.00 |
$230.00 |
$213.33 |
1924-S AU Peace Dollar |
$70.00 |
$66.50 |
$55.00 |
$63.83 |
Sum of column |
$980.00 |
$882.00 |
$854.00 |
$905.33 |
So what does all this tell us? The price guide from Numismatic News gives the closest average price ($882.00) to the actual selling price of the coins ($925.75) and the other two are a little over (Red Book) and a little under (CDN Ask). Does this mean we just should ignore the other two guides? Not really. Each price guide has its place for the collector and dealer. The Red Book is a classic and works well for retail prices of collector coins. The price guide in Numismatic News is free with the subscription and comes monthly. The editors of Numismatic News do a good job in keeping the price guide current. The CDN is the most expensive of the three but it comes weekly with current wholesale prices. So wherever you are at in the world of coin collectors, there is a guide that will help you spend your hard earned money wisely.